The Physical Performance Show: Emma Moffatt – Dual World Triathlon Series Champion

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Episode 3: Emma Moffatt – Dual World Triathlon Series Champion

Brad Beer recently sat down with Emma Moffatt – Dual World Triathlon Series Champion.  Brad has a fire-side chat with Australian Triathlete, dual World Triathlon Series Champion, and just recently announced 3x Australian Olympic Triathlon Champion Emma Moffatt.

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Brad: Welcome to the Physical Performance show, the show designed to inspire the pursuit of your physical best performance. I’m your host, Brad Beer. Listen in as we delve into how the world’s top physical performers achieve their success, as well as the highs, the lows, and the journey of getting there. Let’s get ready, set, let’s go.
Welcome listeners to another episode of the Physical Performance show, the show that takes you behind the curtain of the lives of the world’s best physical performers. I’m your host, Brad Beer. If it’s your first time listening in, a big welcome. If you’re a return listener, thank you. I trust you’ll enjoy this episode and share it around with your fellow peak performers. Listen in as we delve into top physical performers and how they achieve their success. We’ll take you behind the curtain, look at the highs, the lows, and everything in between, on our guest’s journey to physical best performance.
In today’s episode, we have a fireside chat with Australian triathlon legend Emma Moffatt. Emma Moffatt was the bronze medalist in the 2008 Beijing Olympic games triathlon and also the 2009 and 2010 world triathlon series female champion. Emma was also a member of the Australian team in the 2012 London Olympic games, and this year, 2016, is vying for selection for what will be an incredible third Olympic games in Rio de Janeiro. Today’s show is lovingly brought to you by Pogo Physiotherapy Practice. It helps you discover your best pain free performance so that you can do the physical things that you love to do in life. So guys, let’s jump right in.
We have Emma Moffatt on the call today. Emma, it’s a pleasure to have you along. I’ve been keen to get you on the Physical Performance show for a while now. Thanks for your time.
Emma: No worries. Thanks for having me.
Brad: Listeners, as per the intro, Emma is an incredible Australian athlete whose triathlon career spans what potentially will be a third Olympics this year in 2016 with the Rio Olympic games, and some of the highlights of Emma’s career of being the world champion ITU triathlete, 2009 and 2010, and of course the bronze medal in the 2008 Beijing Olympic games. So Moffy, as everyone knows you. Tell us something that the world wouldn’t know about Emma Moffatt.
Emma: I don’t know. People don’t know things because you don’t want them to know it. I don’t know. Maybe other than, I don’t know, other than triathlon I don’t really get up to too much. I’ve got 7 nieces and nephews and I probably enjoy just hanging out and getting my kid fix with them, when I’m not doing triathlon. Everything else, the world doesn’t know, they don’t know for a reason.
Brad: So 7, because I’ve known you Emma, really since probably 1990 when we were both young kids, growing up on the north coast of New South Wales in Australia, and both starting to surf, slash triathlon activities. Your dad actually used to be my sports teacher at Grafton High School. Your sisters, and your brother Chris, and Beth, and …
Emma: Nicole
Brad: Nicole, sorry. They’re the ones that have all the 7 kids right?
Emma: They do.
Brad: You are Auntie Emma to all of them.
Emma: Yep, I am.
Brad: Cool. You’d be very good at it. What would you write as your single greatest physical accomplishment? You’ve done so much in the world of triathlon. If you could pick one memory, what’s the most special one for you?
Emma: Definitely the 2008 Beijing Olympics is probably my highlight. I think the triathlon in Olympic games is the pinnacle of our sport. Going there and coming away with a medal definitely to me the most proud moment I’ve had. It’s very special for me.
Brad: That was 2008. That was the year Emma Snowsill got up for the gold and I remember seeing the footage, watching it live I think it was, and you came around the corner, waving the Aussie flag for bronze. It was a big day for Australian triathlon wasn’t it?
Emma: Yeah, it was. It was very special. I’m not sure how long it will be until Australia does something like that again. To be a part of that moment with Snowy up on top of the dice, it was very amazing, and a memory that I still remember very clearly.
Brad: Going into the games, into the Beijing Games 2008, did you know you were in that form? Did you know that finishing over the podium was a very real possibility?
Emma: No, not at all. I think that’s really why it’s so special. I was still quite a young kid back then with no idea what I was really doing at an Olympic games. I kind of went in there and raced as hard as I could, and as well as I could. I didn’t have very much experience at big championship races. It was very unexpected. I found myself in that position and probably the adrenaline, once I got into third spot on the run, just kept me going. I was probably hurting but didn’t really feel it. It’s a great moment for me.
Brad: When did you run into third in that race? What point did you take the third position?
Emma: I’m pretty sure it was the 4-lap run, and I think it was maybe on the third lap that I did that. I ran past Laura Bennett, the American. Yeah, it was later into the run. I was up there, but to actually pull clear and into the third spot was third or fourth lap.
Brad: You had your family in Beijing?
Emma: Yeah, I did. Mom, dad, brother, and sisters were all there. It was a great moment to be able to have them all there and get on the podium. I travelled a long way and spent a lot of money to get up there. Beijing’s not the nicest of places. I think they probably have fond memories of the place too now.
Brad: That’s amazing. The following year, that’s obviously when you won your first world title in the series. The year after that as well. 2009, that grand final was on the Gold Coast. What was that like, which you won, what was that like racing at home in Australia?
Emma: Again, that was a very special moment, to be able to win my first world championship on home soil. I literally lived 10k away from the race or whatever. It was great. My family were all there once again. This time, lots of friends and people that follow your career slowly around the years, everyone got to come up and support me and see it. It was quite amazing, and probably for me, it was nice to finish the year. I’d had a great year, and then to be able to finish and actually win that race was really the icing on top.
Brad: I imagine half of Worguga, the town you grew up in, was probably there, were they?
Emma: I don’t know.
Brad: Maybe a third.
Emma: Yeah.
Brad: Great. What’s your morning routine look like, professional triathlete, what’s the breakdown of the year? Moffatt, you spend how much time in Australia each year?
Emma: Well the season racing starts in March, around March. The months leading into that, because it’s our Summer here, I get to stay at home. I just do a bit of base training and try to get as many kilometres in the legs as possible. I do that for a few months over the Christmas period, and just before March, I build up and try to get a little bit of speed into the body before the racing starts. Yeah, so I stay at home as much as possible, just because I enjoy the environment here and the support that I have around me. I stay here until maybe May, June. Go up to Japan, maybe race once more. Sometimes over to New Zealand and do a race over there in the meantime. Last year I headed over to Boulder for a few months and did a few American races. There wasn’t really any races in Europe. It just depends on the format of the world triathlon series, and which races I pick out to choose, if I go to America or to Europe or have a little stint in both spots. Yeah, I like to pick somewhere that I’m familiar with, and can get good training facilities and people to train with. For me, Boulder was a great choice last year. I’m hoping to go back there again this year, if I make the team.
Brad: Fantastic.
Emma: I head away racing until end of September, is usually our world championship. Then come home and do a few races in Australia, and I usually have 4 weeks off in November. It’s a pretty full on year. It’s always broken down a little bit with getting to travel away to races and going to different destinations. It’s a long year but you really enjoy that 4 weeks off.
Brad: Yeah, I imagine. Have you got a favourite race on the circuit? Of all the locations you’ve raced out on the world triathlon series?
Emma: I probably love the Hamburg race the most. The atmosphere there is incredible. They’ve had the race for well over 10 years. I think I’ve done the race for 10 years. It’s probably been there for at least 15, maybe 20 years. It has built up. It’s got a great crowd that comes to support the town, or seem to really embrace it. It’s a beautiful place to go. Probably that race is one of my favourites. Purely because of the atmosphere that the local people come out and make.
Brad: Their support. Morning routine, obviously it varies depending on what’s on your program, but what did this morning look like? What were you up to this morning? What time where you up?
Emma: I got up at 5 to 5:00am this morning. Went and did a track session up at Griffith. Probably takes about an hour, 20 with warm up and cool down. Then head home and have breaky and have a quick nap and today also, I have to ride my bike, do Pilates, and then I do a swim school this afternoon.
Brad: Wow. Big day.
Emma: Yeah, my days are pretty full.
Brad: This year, leading into Rio, what’s the selection process look like for you going forward? What are you targeting?
Emma: We have an automatic selection available at the Gold Coast race, which is on April 9th. All the athletes in the top 10 gets a spot, and the other 2 positions, because we have 3 spots available, the other 2 positions are decided through a discretion from the selection panel. That will also include, I think the race in Abu Dhabi which is coming up, the first race of the series, that can be included in discretion and also the Yokohama race and after Yokohama, they’ll choose the team.
Brad: What date would that be, how far out from the games?
Emma: I think it’s straight after the Yokohama race, which is maybe the first or second weekend in May.
Brad: That gives you June, July, August. Is August the Olympic games?
Emma: Yeah August 20 is the female triathlon.
Brad: You’ve lived through this process. This is your third time right? The discretionary triathlon selection process. What’s it like? Explain to listeners what it’s like going to an Olympic year. I imagine you can’t really feel like you can rest on your laurels at any moment right?
Emma: Yeah. For London, I got automatic, or early selection. That was probably a lot less stressful for me. I knew from the year before, October the previous year, the prior year to the Olympics that I was going. You can kind of plan everything, and that was pretty nice. In Beijing, I was in exactly the same spot that I am at the moment. I think it’s all right. You want to compete the best you can anyway, in any race. I don’t know. For me personally, if I’m not worthy of a spot, I don’t want to go to the Olympics. I don’t want to take a girl’s spot who can potentially race better than I can. It’s a little bit, the discretion can get a bit tricky, but I think if you’ve done the performance and you know you should go, I think if you didn’t get selected, than that would be disappointing, but usually I think they’ll select the right people. You just got to perform your best. We’re all in exactly the same spot. We know that April is when we can get an automatic, and if we don’t do that, we’ve got to rely on our history. I’m pretty happy with how my last year went, and 2013, which is also included. It can get tricky, but I don’t know.
Brad: Everyone is in the same boat I guess.
Emma: What happens, happens. If I race well, hopefully, it’s fair and you get selected.
Brad: So Moffy, would there be 2 stories, you’ve got interesting, fun stories from leading into Beijing that you can remember. Leading to what this stage as your career highlight, any stories leading to that that you think listeners would find interesting that you’ve got?
Emma: I don’t really know, no. Nothing exciting really happened. I was pretty young. I was excited to go to the Olympics.
Brad: How old were you at that stage?
Emma: I would have been 23.
Brad: Had you grown up dreaming of the Olympics?
Emma: No, never.
Brad: Really?
Emma: No.
Brad: At what point did you start to think, I’m Olympic games!
Emma: Probably when I got the phone call, that you’re on the team. I had some races, so I thought that I had an idea that I would get into the team. Everyone’s always like, you don’t really know until you’re told. I just waited till I got the phone call.
Brad: You were 23, and that phone call came through. At that point, right I’m off to the Olympic games. How did your mindset shift from not really thinking about it much, to all the sudden knowing that you’re locked in ready to go? What was it like, did you feel pressure, or did you handle that well?
Emma: It’s probably just a great source of motivation, I think. I had no pressure. I hadn’t been a stand out performer amongst all the countries. I didn’t feel like I had to go there and get a medal. It was, “I’m going to the Olympics, and every race I do, I want to do as well as I can.” I think just training and knowing you were going to the Olympic games is great motivation. I think I was highly motivated at training. I think that probably just got me to where I was. Giving it everything. Every session that require everything. It didn’t really change my mindset that much, other than knowing that I was going to the Olympics and I had something really amazing to train for.
Brad: Cool. I guess in terms of the sport, the pinnacle, you certainly didn’t have anything to prove to everyone. From what I understand, you just let it all happen and give it your best. Moffy, what about a dark period in your career? Was there a time, when as a professional athlete, your commitment has wavered in your career?
Emma: I think that probably happens regularly. I wouldn’t describe it as dark. I would say that, I don’t know, maybe every few months, you get a build of up fatigue. You’re tired. You just struggle a little bit. “Why am I doing this?” It turns around pretty fast. You go back out and you have a session. I don’t know. I just enjoy pretty much all my sessions. The surround that I get to be in. I love going to swimming-training, riding around the hinterland, going for a run. I think appreciating those small things turns those thoughts around, and you realise that you got it pretty good. It’s not a bad job. I always get little bouts of where I’m not motivated, but it never really turns into anything. They’re extinguished pretty fast. I think sports is a pretty good career to be in. Making the most of it while I can and just appreciate that I can do it.
Brad: Is that your pet cockatoo in the background?
Emma: No it’s outside.
Brad: What sort of bird is it?
Emma: I don’t know.
Brad: It sounds like a …
Emma: It’s a naughty swan.
Brad: He’s joining us on the chat. Well, following your career with interest over the years, from knowing you from junior triathlon ranks, and your family, Moffy, looking from the outside in, can you share on the London experience, for the listeners that may not know Emma was in the team, and I was sitting at my mother’s house. My Mum obviously knows you as well, Moffy, and was keenly tuned in to see how’d you go. She already won. For the listeners, Emma had a crash on the block and it meant that the race wasn’t able to finish. What was that like, Moffy? How did you process that, and the disappointment that obviously surrounded that?
Emma: At the time, it was the first lap of the bikes. It was so early into the race. I think at the time, I was in a bit of shock. I didn’t ever calculate that into any race plan or anything like that. I didn’t think about crashing. It wasn’t really a possibility. There I was laying on the ground after half a lap of the bike. I don’t know. I think 13 people crashed on that same corner. I was in a bit of shock and disappointment, and had to sit in a little compound right out in front of Buckingham Palace, the whole time the race was going. That was probably the worst part of it.
Just watching the other girls riding around, just wishing that I was still in that pack. I felt my fittest that I’d ever been. I think all the what ifs if I was still racing. Then probably a couple hours later, I don’t know, Erin Detchum got third, so I don’t know. It was still a great day for Australia to get on that podium, and I thought, “Oh well, it wasn’t me this time.” I don’t know. It’s only sport. It’s not the end of the world. I quickly turned it around. I was at the Olympics. I wanted to be able to enjoy the rest of the Olympics and go and watch other events and support your teammates. I was probably for a couple hours while I had to sit there and watch the race. I was in pain. My hip and cuts were hurting. I think it all went away pretty fast. There’s nothing you can do to change it. I’m thankful that it motivated me to want to go to another Olympics. I thought that I was going to stop after London. I think if I had raced and went well, I still wouldn’t be here doing it. I’m really happy that I’m still racing and training. I think for me, I probably want to stop after Rio. With that thought, I really enjoy every part of this, knowing that it could be my last year.
Brad: Given everything. You made the same offer, I felt more pain for you longer than you did, because you were over it in 3 hours. It took me probably 3 weeks. Maybe 3 months.
Emma: I had parties to go to. Things to do.
Brad: We should have had this conversation earlier. I was quite concerned for you for a while.
Emma: No, I was fine. I was at the point that once again, my whole family travelled all the way from Australia to watch me race. They saw me come out of the swim and that was about it. I think probably just disappointed as well for everyone that put so much into me, and my coach at the time, Craig Walton, had put so much effort in, and got me there, and there I was thinking I was in great form. Excited to see what you can actually do when you get to your fittest and then that was all taken away from me. It’s probably, I dealt with it pretty fast. I probably felt a bit guilty for everyone around me that had got me there, and all the time and effort they put in.
Brad: Which the irony is the last thing people would have put in, knowing the time you put in, and the things you sacrifice. It’s funny isn’t it, how things can be processed? I think it’s a real credit to you and certainly it’s an inspiration for lots of eyes that watch you and follow your career. You’re back up. You’re back on the saddle and going for it again. You’ve got a generous following of people that admire for how you handled it so well. Very good. Moffy, is there a favourite training session of the week for you? If you could pick one session.
Emma: I seriously love them all. Probably the hardest for me is to get out and go do half an hour jogs in the afternoon, which is my recovery runs. They’re the ones that I don’t like. My favourite, I don’t know, it’s hard. Probably light running, Tuesdays, I head up to The Spit and do a hard run. I probably enjoy that, and being able to jump in the ocean afterwards and cool off. That’s pretty good, just because it’s running as well. You always know you’ve worked really hard. You get all hot and sweaty.
Brad: Jump in the surf after.
Emma: Like I said, I enjoy them all, whether it’s a hard ride or a hard swim. Every time you finish, you feel good once you’ve done it.
Brad: Is there a session, I know you enjoy them all, but a session that each week you got to get yourself up for, because it’s a bit of a hard one, one that you don’t look forward to when you know you’ve got it?
Emma: No.
Brad: Obviously you enjoy it once you’ve finished it.
Emma: No, like I said, you get so much for riding, doing the triathlon, that it’s nice. You wake up, yes I have running this morning. It’s like, I’ve got swimming today. It’s always changing. I don’t ever really get too bored of it. It’s probably my easy jog in the afternoon. I just don’t want to do this.
Brad: What don’t you like about it? An easy jog would be nice.
Emma: I don’t know.
Brad: You feel tired.
Emma: It’s at the end of the day. It feels hot. Once again, you go do it, and you feel heaps better after that.
Brad: If you can’t give me a training session, what’s your favourite food? Favourite training food?
Emma: That I eat while I’m training, or just …?
Brad: Just in general, to fuel your training.
Emma: To fuel my training. I don’t know. I love Mexican food. I love so much food. It’s probably why I train, so I can eat lots and lots of food.
Brad: Food’s a real driver is it?
Emma: Yeah. Fighting obesity. If I don’t run, it won’t be pretty.
Brad: You can have a skinny glutton.
Emma: I love Mexican. I love going out for breakfast. Love bacon and eggs. Love a curry. I don’t know.
Brad: How do you have your eggs done?
Emma: Depends. I love fried, scrambled, or poached. Whatever.
Brad: What’s your signature meal you make? Do you do much cooking?
Emma: I make Rang Bang Curry.
Brad: Rang Bang Curry?
Emma: Beef Rang Dang
Brad: I’ll Google the recipe.
Emma: It’s on the internet. It’s delicious. It’s in a slow cooker so you can make it in a day after your first session and you don’t have to worry about it, because it’s slowly cooking all day.
Brad: Slowly cooked. Moffy, I’ve got to ask you, talking about the internet, I remember seeing on your social gallery, I think on Instagram, a photo you had with Usain Bolt. How did that one come about? Was it the MCG?
Emma: Yeah. It was at the AFL Grand Final in 2014. He was just sitting in the next row across from us, and at the break, I was like, “Oh my God. There’s Usain Bolt.” I made a beeline and he had a security guard. His security guard said, “No maam, he doesn’t want any photos.” I was like, “But you haven’t even asked him yet. He’s just sitting there. He doesn’t know.” Then him and his mate were trying to take a selfie. I said, “I’ll take the photo for you. It will be much better, if you take the photo with me and Usain.” He said, “Okay deal.”
Brad: You negotiated.
Emma: I negotiated. I didn’t want to do the walk of shame away without no photo.
Brad: You would have been bad, head down. Were you evidently star struck with?
Emma: Yeah I think I was.
Brad: You hadn’t met Usain at the London Olympic Games?
Emma: No. I watched him at Beijing and London. Never went up and said, “G’day.”
Brad: To watch the finals with his win.
Emma: Yeah, it was pretty incredible.
Brad: Did you tell him that when you got your photo with him?
Emma: No, I’m not sure if I could really talk. I actually think he had his earphones in the whole time. He didn’t want to talk.
Brad: The photo looked like you were best mates.
Emma: I know.
Brad: Is there another time you’ve been star struck in your life, even outside of sport?
Emma: I don’t know. I don’t think so. Maybe, I don’t know.
Brad: Usain sort of takes …
Emma: Yeah.
Brad: Cool. Moffy, I didn’t ask at the start. How did you even get into triathlon? What was your start?
Emma: As you know, I’m the youngest of 4, and grew up in a tiny little town. There wasn’t really much to do there other than sports. Grew up doing surf club and then Chris, my oldest brother, started doing triathlons and Nicole and Beth also did them. I just seemed to follow those 3 in everything they did. I don’t know if it was really an option for me or not.
Brad: You were just dragged along.
Emma: Yeah. Copied, followed in their footsteps, and yeah, by the time I was 16, 17, I probably started enjoying it a little bit more than surf club, so I just decided to do triathlon. Didn’t think too much of it. Didn’t really know much other than sport growing up. I picked that sport, and when I was about 20, 21, I think that’s when I did my first world championships, and just decided to go from there.
Brad: What’s the first race you ever won?
Emma: I think maybe when I was in  year 7, the all school state.
Brad: Oh yeah?
Emma: I might have been in Penrith by then. It was somewhere else. I just remember going into the race with Beth and Nicole, and Chris teasing me, because I was really tiny and small. All girls that were much bigger than me, and teasing me saying that I was going to get lost. I think I was race terrified that I would get lost.
Brad: Then you come and win.
Emma: Yeah I got to go to nationals and that was pretty fun.
Brad: Was that the same year?
Emma: 1997 it would have been. I think it was down in Melbourne.
Brad: Okay. I remember there’s a photo somewhere I’ve got here. The home of the NSWjunior team, and I was years older than you, but you were that little girl that was in the front row with your hands on your neck. Old school photo pose. Makes me laugh. You were little Moffy then. Moffy, if the current you could speak to the 20-year old version of you, to get into the sport, what would be the one bit of advice you’d give her?
Emma: I don’t know. I think I always had pretty good advice from everyone else. I don’t know if my advice would be pretty good. I think just enjoy it, and that’s what I’ve always done. I’ve always made sure I’ve enjoyed it. If I haven’t, I’ve made little changes so that I knew that I could enjoy it. I think just being consistent. I don’t really want to change anything. I don’t want to speak to me because I’d probably screw it up.
Brad: Enjoy it, be consistent, and take advice from good people around you.
Emma: Yeah, be smart about it. It’s not the end of the world if something doesn’t turn out as it plans.
Brad: Otherwise, from the relationship, we’ve admired your ability to move on from things, like London, is terrific. That’s part of your in wide personality. I don’t think I’ve ever known you not to be smiling and laughing. It probably has really helped along the way. For the non-professional athletes listening to the show, trying to get their best performance, beating triathlon or whatever it is, running, or swimming, surf, what would be one tip you’d give them to help?
Emma: I would say be consistent and have a goal that’s achievable. I think you see everyone go out in their first week of, “I’m going to get fit and I’m going to do this.” By the second week, they’re either injured or tired or sick of it. I think slowly building to it and take things slowly, because you’re probably going to have a bit of longevity of you do it that way, other than rushing in and thinking you can conquer the world in a week. Be consistent and probably get a group of people to do it with you. You’ll find it a lot more enjoyable.
Brad: Great advice. Moffy, is there any regret you’ve got through your career to date?
Emma: No. Nothing. I wouldn’t want to change anything. I’m really happy with where I am right now. Just happy. Don’t want to change anything.
Brad: Great. That’s a good place to be. What’s on your bucket list personally, beyond triathlon? What would be one thing you’d really love to do?
Emma: At the end of this year, I really want to go around Europe for 3 months in a camper van with my boyfriend Dan. I think that would be pretty amazing, before real life starts. I just want to have a good holiday. Go adventuring.
Brad: That’s your plan for the end of the year?
Emma: Yeah.
Brad: Your boyfriend Dan, he’s also undergoing potential selection for the Rio Olympics, is that right?
Emma: Yep, for kayaking. He’s got first selection race next weekend in Adelaide, and then a few weeks later, another one in Perth. He’ll get to know just before me if he’s in the team or not. Hopefully we can both go to an Olympics together.
Brad: Wouldn’t that be special. What kayak event does Dan paddle?
Emma: He’s looking to get in the K4 1000 boat. The team boat.
Brad: Two potential Olympians in one home?
Emma: Yep.
Brad: In one year. It will be a big year.
Emma: Yeah, we’re both excited for it. It’s pretty exciting.
Brad: Very exciting. Well Moffy, thank you very much for your time. I know you’ve got another 3 sessions to get done today, on top of the run. The podcast in the middle. I really appreciate your time, and I know the listeners certainly really enjoyed that behind the curtain look at your world. Thanks for sharing so openly.
Emma: No worries. Thank you for having me.
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